SoundBlaster Live! MP+3, but no Winamp
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				Chip Fossa
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SoundBlaster Live! MP+3, but no Winamp
I recently installed SB Live Sound Card and
now Winamp does not play. Got PREFERENCE
settings from Winamp site and set pc to those, but still no Winamp.
Has anyone else experienced this? BTW, this SB Live MP+3 sound card is a great upgrade. It also includes a large version of Cakewalk
Gold 8.0. Got it for $99 at CompUSA.
Also, does anyone know how to convert MID.
files to WAV. files?
Thanks to all who can help. That NON-WINAMP
mode is really starting to get on my nerves.
Chips Ahoy
			
			
									
						
										
						now Winamp does not play. Got PREFERENCE
settings from Winamp site and set pc to those, but still no Winamp.
Has anyone else experienced this? BTW, this SB Live MP+3 sound card is a great upgrade. It also includes a large version of Cakewalk
Gold 8.0. Got it for $99 at CompUSA.
Also, does anyone know how to convert MID.
files to WAV. files?
Thanks to all who can help. That NON-WINAMP
mode is really starting to get on my nerves.
Chips Ahoy
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				Jack Stoner
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Have you tried uninstalling winamp and then reinstalling it.  Sometimes a program will not detect new hardware but if you reinstall the program it will find the hardware.
Another thought, do you have the latest version of winamp?? If not download the latest version and install it. That might take care of the problem.
<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Jack Stoner on 07 May 2000 at 12:42 PM.]</p></FONT>
			
			
									
						
										
						Another thought, do you have the latest version of winamp?? If not download the latest version and install it. That might take care of the problem.
<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Jack Stoner on 07 May 2000 at 12:42 PM.]</p></FONT>
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				Chip Fossa
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Jack..everything you mentioned on your reply
I have done.
But wait!!!......I'm thinking now. Winamp
is, I guess, nothing more than a MID. file,
right?
And the program in question actually never said you would need Winamp to hear us.
The program just gravitated to Winamp, cause it was installed on my pc.
So I'm thinking, if I delete these Winamp songs, and then uninstall Winamp, well then maybe I can re-download these great songs from the Civil War era and my pc will have to accomaodate these files?....into SBLive, that recognizes MID. files.
What do you all think?
Thanks...Chip to Shore
			
			
									
						
										
						I have done.
But wait!!!......I'm thinking now. Winamp
is, I guess, nothing more than a MID. file,
right?
And the program in question actually never said you would need Winamp to hear us.
The program just gravitated to Winamp, cause it was installed on my pc.
So I'm thinking, if I delete these Winamp songs, and then uninstall Winamp, well then maybe I can re-download these great songs from the Civil War era and my pc will have to accomaodate these files?....into SBLive, that recognizes MID. files.
What do you all think?
Thanks...Chip to Shore
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				Dave Boothroyd
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Midi files to WAV is a tricky one!
Midi files are numbers which control a synth or soundcard sound generator. WAV files are sampled sound waves.
So if you want to convert this is what you have to do.
Set up your midifile to play with the voices, tempo, key etc that you want using a sequencer which will record audio. (Cubase VST or Logic Audio for example.)
Set an Audio track to record.
If you are using soundcard voices play the midi. If your voices are from an outside module, you must connect its audio output to the 'line in' on your soundcard.
The audio generated by the midi file will then be recorded as a WAV file.
How good it is will depend on the quality of your soundcard. SB live is not too bad usually.
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Cheers!
<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Dave Boothroyd on 08 May 2000 at 12:37 AM.]</p></FONT><FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Dave Boothroyd on 08 May 2000 at 12:38 AM.]</p></FONT>
			
			
									
						
										
						Midi files are numbers which control a synth or soundcard sound generator. WAV files are sampled sound waves.
So if you want to convert this is what you have to do.
Set up your midifile to play with the voices, tempo, key etc that you want using a sequencer which will record audio. (Cubase VST or Logic Audio for example.)
Set an Audio track to record.
If you are using soundcard voices play the midi. If your voices are from an outside module, you must connect its audio output to the 'line in' on your soundcard.
The audio generated by the midi file will then be recorded as a WAV file.
How good it is will depend on the quality of your soundcard. SB live is not too bad usually.
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Cheers!
<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Dave Boothroyd on 08 May 2000 at 12:37 AM.]</p></FONT><FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Dave Boothroyd on 08 May 2000 at 12:38 AM.]</p></FONT>
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				Rich Paton
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" deltree C:\windows *.* , enter ",
executed at the command line will cure any such ills.
Seriously, after 6 mo. to a year or so on an actively utilized system, the registry gets so bloated and overinformative taht you may start to see these sort of sniglets rearing their ugly little heads.
I "flushed" my system as above last week, & re-installed W98SE & all my apps. Everything is smoother, faster, warmer, and fuzzier now...
DOS LIVES!
			
			
									
						
										
						executed at the command line will cure any such ills.
Seriously, after 6 mo. to a year or so on an actively utilized system, the registry gets so bloated and overinformative taht you may start to see these sort of sniglets rearing their ugly little heads.
I "flushed" my system as above last week, & re-installed W98SE & all my apps. Everything is smoother, faster, warmer, and fuzzier now...
DOS LIVES!
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				Chip Fossa
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Well, Dave and Rich, this is getting really bizarre now. The Winamp files in question are from a Stephen Foster website, with many songs being from the Civil War. This is the site that does not work.
But late tonite, when I got back home, I went to my LOONEY TUNES folder which has a ton of stuff ["quotes and phrases"] by Foghorn, Sylvester, Yosemite....and not only did they all work (Winamp), but they were a lot louder and clearer than they were with the old sound card.
Rich...I'm interested in what you are saying ...but where is the COMMAND LINE to be found? And I'm assuming that W98SE is the CD-ROM that came with your PC?
So there is no problem with reinstalling this over all your W98 stuff now on your PC?
Dave.....your Midi to WAV advise is well taken, but it scares me. Sounds too hairy to mess with.
But what if I was to uninstall Winamp now, and then re-download those Civil War files?
On this particular website there was no warning saying that you can hear this ONLY thru Winamp.
Anyway, gents, thanks for your input on this,
and I'll just keep pluggin' away at it.
Chips Ahoy
			
			
									
						
										
						But late tonite, when I got back home, I went to my LOONEY TUNES folder which has a ton of stuff ["quotes and phrases"] by Foghorn, Sylvester, Yosemite....and not only did they all work (Winamp), but they were a lot louder and clearer than they were with the old sound card.
Rich...I'm interested in what you are saying ...but where is the COMMAND LINE to be found? And I'm assuming that W98SE is the CD-ROM that came with your PC?
So there is no problem with reinstalling this over all your W98 stuff now on your PC?
Dave.....your Midi to WAV advise is well taken, but it scares me. Sounds too hairy to mess with.
But what if I was to uninstall Winamp now, and then re-download those Civil War files?
On this particular website there was no warning saying that you can hear this ONLY thru Winamp.
Anyway, gents, thanks for your input on this,
and I'll just keep pluggin' away at it.
Chips Ahoy
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				Bill Crook
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Converting Mid files to wav files......
As mid files are generally used for practic sessions, I convert them in this manner:
1) With a a (good) tape recorder, I use the line-out jack of the sound card. It is a stero type jack. The one that goes to your speakers. The line-out signal is now an analog signal converted by the the sound card as the speaker systen used by most computers isn't digital.
2) Then I record the mid file as I play it.
3) Then play back the tune from the recorder, back to the computer, using "Windat.Exe" that comes with "Windows 98".
4) The resulted file is a "WAV" file, which is what you are asking for.
I use this medothd on several type files with very good results.
Hpoe it works for you.
			
			
									
						
										
						As mid files are generally used for practic sessions, I convert them in this manner:
1) With a a (good) tape recorder, I use the line-out jack of the sound card. It is a stero type jack. The one that goes to your speakers. The line-out signal is now an analog signal converted by the the sound card as the speaker systen used by most computers isn't digital.
2) Then I record the mid file as I play it.
3) Then play back the tune from the recorder, back to the computer, using "Windat.Exe" that comes with "Windows 98".
4) The resulted file is a "WAV" file, which is what you are asking for.
I use this medothd on several type files with very good results.
Hpoe it works for you.

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				Jack Stoner
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